It is my view that carbon trading is an inevitable and necessary tool for tackling climate change. Without a cap and trade mechanism, we will simply not meet the targets that scientific evidence shows are required for reducing carbon emissions. It may not be a perfect method of doing this, but it is inevitable. Particularly in the short term, as a way of ‘buying time’ for the planet and especially the forests, until more long-term, radical solutions are found. So criticism of the concept should be viewed in this light.

I think it is also fair to ask who is fueling the criticism of carbon trading? Is it coming from industrialized companies and big polluters who want to avoid paying for their pollution? Is it the oil and transport lobby who fear the cost to their business and profit margins? Is it the skeptics who doubt climate change? Is it those who don't want to pay the price for cleaning up our planet? Is it those who care more about money and lifestyle than the state of the planet they are handing over to the next generation?

Despite this, “The Burning Season” does address the issue carbon trading in a number of ways. Conservationist, Patrick Anderson outlines the main criticisms. At almost every meeting that Dorjee attends in the middle part of the film, someone raises a problem or obstacle to his scheme. Achmadi's entire story-line raises the challenges and improbability of getting the money from carbon trading down to the village level. Carbon trading and the obstacles to including forests in future climate agreements are at the heart of the Bali UN Conference scenes.

Two common criticisms of carbon trading are expounded; either it’s seen as a “scam” or as a way for the industrial countries “to buy time". Both have validity. There have been a number of carbon trading scams, mainly associated with tree planting. To date, without a fixed price on carbon and without formalized cap and trade mechanisms, most carbon trading schemes are flawed or token. Some schemes are well intentioned and undertaken mainly to show a commitment to the concept of pricing carbon emissions. Others have been cynical attempts by big companies at ‘green dressing’ while they continue polluting. However, even these have a positive aspect, as they at least start the process of putting a price on emissions.

Audiences are entitled to ask themselves, throughout this film, whether they think what Dorjee and the Governors are doing is a scam or not? They can judge for themselves from the characters in action, and the claims they make. The film does not preclude this possibility, nor does it propose it.

The second criticism is that industrialised countries are “buying time”. This is almost certainly true. Patrick Anderson and two of the characters at the Bali conference raise this issue. There is nothing in the film that says this is a good or a bad thing: buying time in this crisis is probably necessary and inevitable. Audiences will ask themselves whether this criticism applies to Dorjee's scheme or not, and whether it outweighs the value of stopping the destruction of millions of hectares of forest.

Cathy Henkel
Director, The Burning Season

Cathy,

EXCELLENT JOB! Amazing subject and captivating in its presentation. Where can I purchase a copy for my daughter to watch?

With every new scheme or adventure we come across in life, in general, there will always be an obstacle or two or more. With time, comes experience and knowledge and from there we can tweek and refine our actions. Kudos to Dorjee for taking a bold and brilliant step to assist in changing people's attitudes and positions on climate change.

I was sent an invite to see this doco by a friend when it screened in Brisbane. I am glad I didn't go actually, as by the end of the show here in my own living room I was a blabbering mess, cheering and clapping. How embarrassing! I am so proud to see people standing up and acting on what they believe in and feel so strongly for. This doco hit the mark and yet left you feeling a sense of hope for the future of our planet. I never thought I would see the day that global attitudes started to change for the better, in concern to our earth and its diversity of environments and lifeforms. I always thought it would be left for my children to try and clean up. Keep up the good work.

We all can make a change, whether it is done on a small scale at home or on a global scale like Dorjee is doing. Every action and proactive attitude eventually unites to bring about change.

Fingers crossed that this continues to grow into a rewarding and revolutionary venture for every creature who breaths the earth's air.

Cathy, your introduction to this topic implies that you have considered alternative approaches to carbon trading but don’t find them satisfactory. There are other approaches to tackle climate change besides carbon trading and offsets, and these issues were being hotly debated by NGO’s, Governments, the World Bank etc, while you were making the Burning Season film. I thought the film should have at least touched on the debate by mentioning other approaches that can generate funding and support to assist tropical nations to reduce deforestation.

The Brazilian national government was and remains a strong opponent of carbon trading, and has made it clear that it does not want to sell the avoided carbon emissions from its efforts to stop deforestation. The largest commitment of funds to date for reducing deforestation isn’t from carbon trading, but is Brazil’s Amazon fund, which has received commitments of one billion US dollars over the coming five years if deforestation continues to be reduced. Brazil’s commitment to reduce its emissions is way beyond any other nation emitting CO2, either from burning fossil fuels or forests. More than seventy per cent of Brazil’s CO2 emissions come from deforestation, and Brazil has committed to reduce deforestation by 70 per cent below current levels by 2014-2017. This would reduce Brazil's annual CO2 emissions by about 500 million tons - the same as Australia's total annual CO2 emissions.

Along with the Government of Brazil, the world’s major environment groups (as opposed to conservation groups), and the majority of the world’s indigenous peoples regional organisations are also opposed to carbon trading. Why do they see carbon trading and offsets as a false solution? Because the world needs to reduce emissions from every major sector that causes emissions but this won’t happen if polluters are allowed to keep polluting while paying someone else to reduce their emissions. Because reducing emissions via carbon trading may lead to indigenous peoples losing control of their forests as governments and businesses make money off their forests. Because carbon markets are extremely volatile, and therefore can’t send stable, long term signals to businesses to invest in low carbon technologies. Governance problems are also emerging with forest carbon trading efforts, see crackshttp://www.reuters.com/article/GC ... 04?sp=true

The government of Aceh was interested to receive funding from bilateral donors to assist its efforts to stop deforestation but the national government of Indonesia was able to block foreign government funding offered to Aceh to assist it in implementing its logging moratorium. But the national government couldn’t block Aceh from making deals with private finance, and so Aceh pursued an agreement with Merril Lynch, with the help of Dorjee Sun, as covered extensively in your film. Although the extent of the Aceh Ulu Masen REDD project is 750,000 hectares, annual deforestation in that area was about 35,000 hectares, and the REDD plan hopes to reduce that rate by some 80 per cent. If the project is achieving its reduction goal, now, two years later, it may have helped avoid some 60,000 hectares of deforestation. Of concern to me is that I recently learned that many of the indigenous communities who traditionally own and manage parts of the Ulu Masen forests are yet to be informed about the REDD project.

There have been some questions raised concerning REDD and THE BURNING SEASON. Our film does not advocate REDD or any other scheme. Our film is about what is actually happening in Indonesia, the extent of deforestation and the impact it's having on orangutans and climate change.

We follow the efforts of one young man to find what he considers a solution. As one of the participants in the film, Patrick Anderson says "what can we do that's actually going to make a difference NOW, this year or next year, because forests don't have that long". He is talking to Dorjee Sun, the young entrepreneur from Australia, who develops a scheme he claims will protect Indonesia's forests, save the orangutans and help to stop climate change. Whether people agree with his solution, or think it's going to be effective, is a question posed by the film. Audiences are invited to make up their own minds about this.

It is useful to note that when we started making this film, and Dorjee began his journey, the concept of REDD was not being widely debated. In fact, it was not until December 2007, during the Climate Change Conference in Bali, that REDD began to be reported in mainstream media. We documented the UN decision to include REDD in the proposed new climate change agreement to take effect after 2012 as this was the final incentive for the bank, Merrill Lynch, to sign the deal with Aceh.

It is important that REDD is debated in the lead-up to the next major Climate Conference in Copenhagen in December. Many groups are advocating ways to improve its effectiveness to ensure it does not disadvantage indigenous people. Some groups oppose it outright.

The filmmakers share the same key objectives as many conservation groups, including Friends of the Earth, which is to highlight the plight of forests, the needs of indigenous communities and the pending extinction of orangutans. How this can be done is a subject of great and urgent debate, and I would urge people to come along and see the film, engage in the debate and make up their own mind.

Dorjee's solution is without doubt controversial, and as a filmmaker, I welcome discussion about the issues the film raises. However, many conservation and forest protection groups have hailed Dorjee's concept as a landmark success. The African Rainforest Conservancy, based in New York, honoured him recently by naming a newly discovered species of chameleon after him.

WALHI is seen in the film as a conservation group opposed to the granting of licences to large companies for the production of palm oil and as an organisation in the province of Jambi opposed to land clearing using fire. They are seen working to educate local people on the effects of deforestation and climate change.

The film aims to promote awareness about the state of the forests and hopefully inspire people to take some action of their own. The companion web site for the documentary - http://www.tenthingsyoucando.com - provides links to a wide range of actions that people can take to protect forests, save orangutans and reduce their own carbon footprint. Conservation groups should encourage people to see the film.

The focus of The Burning Season is not about the merits or otherwise of REDD. It's about raising awareness in the broader community about the extent and consequences of deforestation, the plight of the orangutans and the fact that we need urgent, innovative and effective solutions. We need to encourage young people to think creatively about this enormous challenge we all face. We need to be inclusive in engaging with issues and encourage everyone to do whatever they can to save the planet. Doing nothing is no longer an option.

Cathy Henkel
Producer/Director, The Burning Season

It’s happened that I just seen The Burning Season movie in one of commercial TV station during my trip to go home with my family. Seeing the film and reading your opinion for Carbon trading is an inevitable and necessary tool, make me in the situation to agree to you.

In the movie, it was very clearly shown that one of the major contributor for the deforestation is made by Palm Oil Industry. For the business purposes, the palm oil tree needs the area in proper condition so it will be suitable to cultivate the tree. For this purpose the corporation who will cultivate the tree needs to do a land clearing. This kind of requirement means deforestation.

So following that logic, it means that we must stop the development or new opening area for palm oil industry, the sooner the better.

However, as a veteran in the Palm Oil industry for more than 20 years, I can see that Palm Oil industry can give direct income to the indigenous people and also thousand of good economic reasons for each region to support that industry.

In my opinion, yes we need credit carbon trading to resolve the issue, but on other hand we must have the alternative industry that can support the indigenous people and also the local authorities to have their own income from the industry.

We have to find the alternative plantation that can be cultivated in industry (large) scale, has better characteristic compare that palm oil and can be use as land conservation plantation purposes. This kind of tree must contribute reasonable economic value added both to indigenous people and local authorities.

After several year intensive research, I found that ALEURITES TRISPERMA (KEMIRI SUNAN - SUNAN CANDLENUT) can be planted for this purpose.

The optimum climate to grow this tree is at temperature 18,7–26,2oC, pH 5,4–7,1 and it can grow at low to medium level, in West Java is found growing at an elevation of more than 1000 meter (Hyne, 1987).

Aleurites Trisperma grows as a pole, height can reach 15 meter or more, live until more than 75 years and have a tight and wide canopy. The tight and wide canopy enables the tree to hold rain drops falling directly to the soil surface, so that prevent erosion and increasing absorption of water into the soil. Single Rooted anchorage enables to prevent land slide. Its tick leaves (reaches thousands leaves/tree) are able to tie carbon dioxide and produces plenty of oxygen.

Planting Aleurites Trisperma will create a tremendous multiplier effects. Besides being the precise solution to the critical land area rehabilitation, it also produces the alternative sustainable fuel. There will be more opportunities for the development of technology to produce the alternative fuel to replace the fossil fuel. One of the technologies is the use of green fuel as biodiesel. The sustainable green fuel can be obtained from this Aleurites Trisperma seeds. To study further regarding this tree please visit www.bahterahijaulestari.com

This tree can be planted in large scale and cultivated in industry (large) scale. By having, this alternative tree, the indigenous still can earn their income, land conservation can be achieved, global warming issue can be resolved and more over the crisis for fossil oil can be overcome as well.

Then this integrated solution and combine with carbon trading will be the inevitable and necessary tool.

Abraham George
President Director – PT Bahtera Hijau Lestari

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